Episode 5: Election Fraud and Capitol Mayhem

[00:00:00] Chris: [00:00:00] All right. Y'all welcome back. Welcome back to wine therapy. It is your co-host Chris Evans and the lovely Nancy with us again today. Hello. I'm so, so sorry. You guys had, it's been so long since our last episode. It. It's not entirely my fault.

[00:01:00] [00:01:00] Nancy: [00:01:00] It's mainly Nancy's.

[00:01:05] Chris: [00:01:05] We have been trying to find a time to record another episode for like three months now. And it just didn't work out on social occasions. And we're not. Full-time podcasters. We do actually have day jobs unlike some of these other people, but

[00:01:23] Nancy: [00:01:23] if there are sponsors out there that would like to make us full-time, KIPPsters, I'm very open to

[00:01:28] Chris: [00:01:28] that.

[00:01:31], we do this for fun and so we've just life got in the way. But we promise we're going to be releasing episodes more regularly going forward. And we're trying to set up a schedule to do that. So hopefully probably about biweekly we'll do them. And try to stay on top of that.

[00:01:50]And in the meantime, please feel free to tweet at us at wine therapy, pod CA wait, is it at wine therapy, pod or wine report? [00:02:00] Yeah, I think it's on Twitter. It's on Twitter. It's white because our website is wine therapy, podcast.com. But no, I think wine therapy podcast is too long  for.

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[00:02:13] Nancy: [00:02:13] again, not full time podcast.

[00:02:18]Chris: [00:02:18] . So tweet us at Windermere pea pod. If you have anything you wanted to talk about especially in our, on the couch segment, if you're looking for advice on something or you just have some. Interesting funny or messy story you want us to talk about? So there is so much talk about since there, because there've been so many things that have happened since we were last here namely the election happened and that was a mess.

[00:02:46]Nancy: [00:02:46] Well, it's satisfying to see Biden claim the winter, like 47 different times. That was kind

[00:02:51] Chris: [00:02:51] of fun. Right. Well, it's, it's strange because it was only how many weeks ago, eight weeks ago [00:03:00] or something, but it feels like it was forever. Everything that's happened in the, during the Trump presidency feels like it, it may, it's made this four years feel like it's been like 30.

[00:03:11] So somebody just mentioned like the Sarah Huckabee. Fake pie scandal the other day, like when she posted a fucking stock image pie on her Twitter saying that she baked it and people exposed her. And I was like, Oh my, I can not believe that was only like two years ago or whenever that was, because it just, everything just feels like it was so long ago.

[00:03:33] Nancy: [00:03:33] All of us being stuck at home. It's, we're all living Groundhog day, essentially.

[00:03:37] Chris: [00:03:37] Right. That too. , I think the last. The episode we did. I think we were expecting to be on the tail end of this year. COVID saga. Yeah, here we are almost a year later from our first lockdown and it's raging worse than ever.

[00:03:56]But so the election, so [00:04:00] I don't know where you were Nancy on election night. I was sitting in my bedroom.

[00:04:04] Nancy: [00:04:04] Yeah. I was getting blackout drunk on my living room floor with, some pizza boxes around me, lots of empty bottles and cans. Yeah. And then I got to a certain point of the night where I was like, let's start ripping shots.

[00:04:21] I stayed in, but it was a. Cause I had to, I had adulting that I had to do, like I sent in my absentee ballot super early because I didn't, I would have happily risked the Rona to vote against Trump, but I was like, let me do the responsible thing and, just all vote by mail and that'll be totally fine.

[00:04:40] But I had to I had a doctor's appointment or something on like actual election day and driving past and seeing the lines of people, some with mass, some without random cops around, I was like, Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm glad I skipped this, but I sent my thing in.

[00:04:57] Chris: [00:04:57] Yeah.  Just remember the feeling in [00:05:00] 2016 when I was, I think I was following along on Reddit actually.

[00:05:04] And when I started seeing people say that basically there was no path and that, she would have to like, When this state and that state, and maybe she wins half of Maine, and this happens in like just fucking, a beautiful mind style equations to, to figure out how Hillary could possibly

[00:05:25] Nancy: [00:05:25] win.

[00:05:26] Second. I saw her struggling with Virginia. I was like, pack it up, boys. It's over now. I'm just going to drink until I pass out. Cause I can't handle it.

[00:05:34] Chris: [00:05:34] Well, I was, I think at that time I needed to live in that delusion for a second, that there was still a possibility. So I was just like, You know what, at that point it was probably already around midnight or something like that.

[00:05:45] So I was like, I'm just going to go to sleep and hopefully wake up in the morning, check my phone and something miraculous would have happened because I like felt sick to my stomach. I can't even recall another time when I felt [00:06:00] like that in my life. It felt like if you've ever had a, if you've ever been in a dream.

[00:06:04] Where you  fell off a building or something, or, you know what I mean? Like something, something happened that was so dreadful and so hopeless. And so like sudden that you're like, I'm fucked and I'm going to die, but you're, you have to spend the next 30 seconds or however long it is like in that agony and you're going to die.

[00:06:22] Like that is that anxiety is like what it felt like. And so I was like, I don't know what else to do besides forced myself to go to sleep. I think at the time I was. On painkillers from kidney stones or something. So I had like I I had Percocet sitting around somewhere that I was like, I need to take this to just

[00:06:40] Nancy: [00:06:40] not in the pain of the election.

[00:06:42] Chris: [00:06:42] Yeah. Yeah. But so that was, I just had PTSD from that. And I was like, even though I was, sure. The Biden was going to win. It's well, that's what I thought last time too.   Those first, that first like hour or two was really scary because that was before they [00:07:00] have started cast counting the mail-in ballot.

[00:07:03] And it was all just the in-person ones, which, most of the Trump people voted in person because Trump was stupid and told his people not to trust the mail. And well,

[00:07:11] Nancy: [00:07:11] and also they think the virus is fake and don't give a shit about not going out, so

[00:07:16] Chris: [00:07:16] right. But so. Yeah, those first early returns were like scary.

[00:07:22] And I started, I was like, Oh my God, I'm starting to get flashbacks. I'm starting to get flashbacks for 2016. And people were like, don't freak out. Don't freak out. They're not counting the mail in ballots yet. And they haven't reported the big counting as with all the, the people in it.

[00:07:39] And I think it was once that big dump came from like Detroit. That's what I was like, Oh shit. We're good. Cause it was, it seemed to all happen one right after the other, like a big dump from Detroit, a big dump from Atlanta, a big dump from Milwaukee, a big dump from what's the Pennsylvania city of Philadelphia.

[00:07:58] Yeah. Yeah. [00:08:00] And so, yeah, so that was that, , it was stressful for awhile.

[00:08:06] Nancy: [00:08:06] Yeah. Oh no. And then all of the. Well, now there's this lawsuits we're going to recount and Nope, this is I feel like. I don't know if you've ever watched SpongeBob, but there's one episode where Mr. Crabs they're like doing the same thing over and over.

[00:08:21] I don't remember what it is, but he's just like give it up for day 23. And he looks like a cracked out insane person. That's just how I felt every single day where I woke up and I was like, okay, so they're still not officially calling it. So let me just sit here and keep refreshing Safari 45 times, because maybe this will be the moment when it comes through, but I remember.

[00:08:41] When it actually was called by. I don't remember who called it first, but I think it was CNN. That is where I saw it. I immediately was like, Oh honey, they did this on a Saturday so we could get proper fucked up. I'm going out to buy champagne. I'm going to start popping balloons. Let me go [00:09:00] buy a new copy of the Washington post.

[00:09:03] Chris: [00:09:03] Yeah, I was here in New York and you, it was so surreal cause the literally the moment. It was announced like on whatever news station or it was, you could hear people like cheering in the streets. I'm like, where the fuck did people get all these damn air horns are people just hoarding air horns in their house for moments like this?

[00:09:27] What the fuck?

[00:09:28] Nancy: [00:09:28] Cow bells and shit. I don't

[00:09:31] Chris: [00:09:31] like who has this shit just lying around?

[00:09:33]Nancy: [00:09:33] I might have a party favor from new year's Eve, like seven years ago, but that I don't have any of that shit. It just be me with two pots and pans, just like, meaning we're so happy.

[00:09:43] Chris: [00:09:43] ,  and that, , that whole saga.

[00:09:46] Was going on and, thank God for black voters because the, and thank God for Stacy Abrams and like all the organizers on the ground in Georgia and [00:10:00] Michigan and everywhere because,  it's what really scares me is. I always felt there was a strong chance he would win again. And the only thing that made me think he probably wouldn't win was because COVID happened.

[00:10:15] And because his response to it was so terrible. And because so many Republicans, they don't change their votes unless something directly affects them. It's like George Bush, like the only reason why he. Why? I feel like a lot of people voted for Obama that were, that previously voted for publican was because George Bush completely destroyed the economy.

[00:10:41] And it was like, people were so desperate. It was like, we'll just take a change. Anything just, yeah.  Even if it's some black dude from Kenya that we think is a Muslim, just fuck it. Anyone.

[00:10:52] Nancy: [00:10:52] Remember when we thought that was the worst president we had ever had.

[00:10:56] Chris: [00:10:56] Oh, I think about that. Well, here's the thing.

[00:11:00] [00:11:00] He really was terrible president.

[00:11:03] Nancy: [00:11:03] Yeah. But now he looks amazing. Like in hindsight now I'm like, Oh, even though he was a total moron, like, but look, he actually went to school. Cool.

[00:11:16] Chris: [00:11:16] Well, I will say this at the very least. He may have been corrupt. He may have been racist. He may have been an idiot.

[00:11:23] He may have been, trying to get us into a ward to make up for some shit. His father had his unfinished business who knows what it was, whatever, but I never doubted that he actually gave a shit about the United States country.

[00:11:37] Nancy: [00:11:37] Correct? Yes. I agree with that.

[00:11:39] Chris: [00:11:39] Donald Trump, he literally does not matter.

[00:11:42] Give one shit about anybody in this country besides himself. Yes, period.

[00:11:48] Nancy: [00:11:48] And as well, his daughter,

[00:11:51] Chris: [00:11:51] well, that's a whole nother episode. That's for the ID channel. Oh God. Yeah. [00:12:00] That's a fucking episode of SVU. Yeah. Forensic fights, but , so I felt like. Because of COVID.

[00:12:09]That has reached every corner of the country, rural America, suburbs, cities, white America, everywhere has been affected by it. And white seniors in particular  are usually a big Republican voting block and they were being eviscerated by COVID. And so I was like, This may give us the, as horrible as this pandemic is, and of course I would rather that we not had it in that nobody died, but I feel like it's the one thing that really pushed people over the edge to either vote for Trump.

[00:12:44]Excuse me, vote for Biden or simply not, or, not be enthused enough by Trump to come out to vote. So but what's really scary is that despite all of that, despite how badly he's bungled. This pandemic. And not only that, [00:13:00] but the fact that we actually have on tape calls from Bob wood Bob Woodward with Trump, where he admits to knowing about it in January, knowing how contagious it was, knowing how deadly it was, knowing that it was airborne.

[00:13:17] He admits to knowing all of that. And yet after those recorded calls, went on television and told people that it was going to be fine. There was going to go away that it was just like the flu. We don't need to wear masks. How, after all of that, there are still 70 plus million people who voted for him.

[00:13:34] That is the part that just astounds me.

[00:13:37] Nancy: [00:13:37] Well, and I love the hypocrisy that comes out of the people that do support them, where they're like it is my body and my ride. You went not going to tell me to wear a mask. Oh, I'm sorry, girl. Didn't you say you were pro-life too. How's that work at? That's

[00:13:50] Chris: [00:13:50] weird. No, I they're pro fetus.

[00:13:55] Nancy: [00:13:55] Yeah. I think that was the first moment. Cause I remember. [00:14:00] Very early in the pandemic. Like I was still going to work every day. Like I, not much had really changed. We it's horrible to say now, but we were just joking about it and not in the sense of like go home and look at these numbers, but me, like, I'm a heavy chain smoker.

[00:14:15] So if I'd cough, I would just look at everyone. Like it's not Rona. I swear like a smoker. That's all it is.

[00:14:21] Chris: [00:14:21] Did you ever see the photo? You say you're joking about it, but quite frankly, a lot of us did in those early days because we didn't know how serious it was. We've dealt with things like Ebola and this, that, and the other, swine flu.

[00:14:35] But those came here and affected a small number of people before our government like kind of hold on them. So I don't think any of us ever expected that it was going to become this thing that it has, but. There was a photo of somebody getting pulled over by the police. They put in a fucking piece of paper up to the window saying I have Corona virus, so they fucking couldn't roll [00:15:00] down their window.

[00:15:00] Nancy: [00:15:00] Oh my God.

[00:15:03] Chris: [00:15:03] And I was just, I remember why seeing that photo at the time and fucking dying, laughing.

[00:15:08] Nancy: [00:15:08] That's amazing. But it was like, we had been talking about it for a couple of weeks and then all the sudden it was like, Nobody come back into the office until further notice everyone is working from home.

[00:15:19] And I

[00:15:19] Chris: [00:15:19] was like, yeah, it was like overnight. It became really serious. And I remember getting really anxious like that first day when all the lockdowns began. And I'm reading all the updates online and I'm like, okay, I'm actually scared. Like even though I was in my. House in North Carolina at the time.

[00:15:37] And I was completely secluded by myself and had no reason to go anywhere. I was like scared. Cause I'm just like, I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. I've never seen our country deal with something like this to where people cannot leave their homes. And we don't know when this is going to be over and it was just scary.

[00:15:58] I think it's, I think it's just [00:16:00] scary to go through something that is potentially deadly. Where it's so UNPRI, it's so unprecedented, you know what I mean? Like just the uncertainty of like, how do we get on the other side of this? Well, and the other

[00:16:13] Nancy: [00:16:13] thing too, that really freaked me out is I'm way too shitty of an adult to handle like the grocery stores being empty.

[00:16:21] Like, do you think I plan ahead and have a stockpile of things like toilet paper and food? No, like that was my fear. Cause when I had to travel during the pandemic. For work. And then I finally came home and I was like, okay, I need to, I've been gone for over a month. I need to go grocery shopping.

[00:16:41] I need to get stuff. And I'm literally walking through the grocery store and nothing. There's nothing like, I think that first grocery trip that I went on, there was no toilet paper, no paper towels. Thankfully I had some in my apartment, but. Me going through the entire frozen food [00:17:00] section and being like, okay, so there's one bag of meat, tortellini here.

[00:17:04] I guess I'll just grab that. And, Oh, there's no bread anywhere. I guess I'll just get this one thing of bologna and maybe that'll get me by. And that was very scary for me early on, because I was like I live alone. What am I going to do? Like if the stores, and then I tried to be a little bit more proactive and I asked the people at the grocery store that's near me.

[00:17:23] I'm like, so. I just want to know, like when do you guys get your truck? Cause like, I just want to show up as soon as you guys open so I can get some basic things. Cause at this point I, on average, I would say I go grocery shopping maybe once a month, if that I tend to just load up and then I wait until things are down to the very bare minimum bare cabinets.

[00:17:48] Oh, yeah. So because every time I would go and honestly, I wasn't trying very frequently to go to the grocery store. Cause I was trying to be very diligent with my quarantining and [00:18:00] not make trips out with unnecessary risks. So I remember asking them, I was like, Hey, so when does your truck come? Because I just want to show up like, as soon as you guys opened, because my house, I have like nothing left right now.

[00:18:13] And I. Sure. I can do carry out and whatever, but I need like actual things. So when does the truck come? They're like, well, comes on Saturdays. And I was like, Oh, okay. So that first Saturday that happened after that, I was immediately like 5:00 AM sitting outside the store, waiting for them to open up.

[00:18:33] And I was finally able to get like chicken breasts and, bread and. Paper towels and toilet paper and, dish soap. Like I, cause I was out of pretty much everything because I didn't go shopping before I left for my work trip because I'm not coming back for a month. So why would I, you know what I mean?

[00:18:50] Why would I have anything stocked up? But, so that was particularly messy, but I don't I remember when the first numbers came out [00:19:00] for my state, where we were at like 423. And I remember being like, Oh my God, I can't believe guys, 423. This is like out of control. And now we're over 300,000 and I'm like,

[00:19:11]Chris: [00:19:11] Yeah. So he completely bungled the entire response to this, and it's really seconding how so many of these people have politicized the entire thing.

[00:19:22] Nancy: [00:19:22] Well, to me, that's that was what the scariest part of him being the president for the response. When the CDC put out clear guidelines of wear your mask and he's reading the statement and he's like you know where it's own where it's not required.

[00:19:36] I'm not going to be aware of in mind, just like, what are you doing? Like you are. We all knew he was crazy, but I was like, that is so reckless. And now all of his supporters are gonna be like, well, Donald Trump, he, and they're more Washington. And he told me I got to wear a mask. I'm going to fucking wear a mask.

[00:19:55] I'm like, and I love seeing all these videos pop up of [00:20:00] people, like on massive oxygen, like crying and talking about how they wish that they had listened. And Oh, then they caught Corona virus and now I need a lung transplant or whatever else I'm like. Yeah. Idiot. If you listen to science. So like,

[00:20:14]Chris: [00:20:14] Yeah. But I feel like these, I feel like they need to have a master list of everyone who didn't follow the COVID protocols and refuse to wear a mask. And check that list when these motherfuckers check into the emergency room and be like, no, sorry,  for you, but you don't have a ventilator. You're fucked.

[00:20:37] Go back to the parking lot and die. Yeah. Because it's ridiculous.  These poor healthcare workers are working like 48 hour shifts and there's no end in sight and they're having to treat people in the parking lots because there's no space. It's all avoidable. If people just fucking [00:21:00] followed the directions and then I see people, if you go to I'm seeing people on social media in places like Florida, where everything has just returned to normal, like there's people packed into bars and shit.

[00:21:14] Because they just can't stand to not have their lame ass, Friday night karaoke with Brenda and Shirley at the fucking local watering hole. And they just have no regard for the fact that we're in a pandemic. Well,

[00:21:31] Nancy: [00:21:31] that's the second we started releasing how to wash your hands videos. I knew we were fucked as a country.

[00:21:38] I was like, we really need to explain what song versus you can sing twice. And that shows that it was 30 seconds of washing your hands. Like dear God, that's what I knew. What was going to be bad.

[00:21:52] Chris: [00:21:52] Well, there's a whole thing that came out a poll of people washing their hands and it basically [00:22:00] said, The biggest group that doesn't wash their hands is white people.

[00:22:03] And the well overall, overall it was white people, but white men in particular, don't wash their hands.

[00:22:11] Nancy: [00:22:11] Hold on, let me put on a really shocked tone. Oh my God. The white men were dirty. That is crazy,

[00:22:20] Chris: [00:22:20] which is, completely coincidentally also the group least likely to wear masks. So the dirtiest ones are the ones who refuse to wear masks to shield the rest of us from their nasty acids, but welcome to the United States.

[00:22:39] But so, yeah, so the election happened, thankfully it turned out. The right way, despite the fact that they spent months and are still now trying to contest the fucking results of the election. And then of course there was this special election, two [00:23:00] special elections for the Senate that just went our way last week.

[00:23:04] So we're going to have some kind of normalcy return to our government and I just. I want to just, I want to go back to logging onto social media to just see pictures of people's cats. Talk shit about what happened on fucking American idol and Memes. I don't want to fucking just be constantly doom scrolling Oh my God, what horrible thing happened today?

[00:23:29] Like what, how far have we fallen into a banana Republic this week? I just want to go back to normal life of not. Knowing what the fuck the government is doing every damn day. Remember

[00:23:42] Nancy: [00:23:42] when you weren't ashamed to be an American?

[00:23:44]Chris: [00:23:44] Vaguely.

[00:23:46] Nancy: [00:23:46] I have, cause I have some friends that are abroad and of course when stuff happens in the news and all during Trump's presidency, I'll just get a random, email here or there where they're like.

[00:23:58] Man America's [00:24:00] wild. Like, yeah, we're doing our best, I guess this is our best.

[00:24:05] Chris: [00:24:05] Yeah, I got, yeah. But tangentially election related we're going back to some things that happened earlier because we hadn't recorded yet, but

[00:24:23] we, so we have, first of all, Trump telling people that on the, on January 20th, when he's supposed to be leaving or when Joe Biden is being inaugurated, but he's not going to leave the white house, like physically not leave. Which I would be excited to see, because basically like they're going to drag you out, like on January 20th.

[00:24:56] Nancy: [00:24:56] Can we just like, can we just set up a [00:25:00] bunch of cameras and like, I would pay a lot of money for footage of him being dragged out. By his literal hair and his, 57 inch belt loops like bitch, I would happily pay to see that. , let him go ahead and try and stay in there. Try to dig in like a tick, please just broadcast it so we all can enjoy it.

[00:25:26] Chris: [00:25:26] Yeah. And there's all there. So I don't know exactly what the protocol is, obviously, because it's. Unprecedented, I don't think any of us do of what they would do if he wouldn't leave. If it, if what agency is responsible for removing him if I guess it would be the secret service, but how does that work?

[00:25:46] When the secret service, he also has his own secret service detail rock, paper, scissors, but would it be this you could surface, would it be. You asked marshals, would it be familiar to I don't know [00:26:00] specifically what, like law enforcement agency would be responsible for moving him, , if they put that shit up on, if he were smart, because we knew we do know from his, from the tax returns that we've seen of his from, I think New York state that he's $400 million in debt to someone and the debt is going to come due when he's no longer president.

[00:26:19] So. If I were him, I'd be like, you know what, let me just real Housewives this shit. And let me create this really big spectacle on the day that I leave, where they're going to have to like, We're going to be ripping art off the walls. We're going to, they're going to have to drag me out. We're going to make this big thing and set up like a real camera crew.

[00:26:39] Like big, bring a Bravo camera crew, have everybody wear body cams, set up a lighting kit in each room and turn it into a whole production and charge people to watch that shit on pay-per-view because you would make probably like a hundred million dollars just from people paying to see him get removed

[00:26:58] Nancy: [00:26:58] from the white house.

[00:26:59] Oh, yeah. National [00:27:00] debt would be gone immediately.

[00:27:02] Chris: [00:27:02] Yeah. , so, and there's been, I guess there's been different theories of what people could do. Like someone was, there was a rumor last week that I'm not sure if there's any truth to it, but that they were saying I guess there's some other like adjacent white house building.

[00:27:18] That I don't know what it's called, but there's another building that they were saying that once Biden is inaugurated, that he would work out of until Trump left. And then what they were going to do was like, turn off all the utilities. So turn off the wall or turn off the electric. Like he can't watch Fox news.

[00:27:36] He can't tweet he, well, he can't tweet anymore anyway, but thank God  and just smoke them out that way. But I think that was just, I think that was an unsubstantiated rumor, but who knows either way, bitch on January 20th dress is getting removed. They, but

[00:27:52]Nancy: [00:27:52] I don't know. What's the normal timeline for the sitting president to essentially move out of the white house, [00:28:00] like in a normal world.

[00:28:01] That is is it normally a week before the inauguration. Is it like, what is that timeline normally?

[00:28:07] Chris: [00:28:07] Yeah, that's a good question. I'm not sure, like when they actually start physically getting their stuff out. Certainly I don't think anybody waits until the day of, to be like, okay, now we're leaving.

[00:28:19] Here's the keys. Here's my, where's my security deposit. Yeah. ,  it's sad that we're even having to think about this sort of thing, but. I have no idea. I really don't. But now they're saying that he's planning to do this whole big spectacle in Florida at Mar-a-Lago where he's going to as counter-programming to Biden's inauguration, he is going to like, make this big display where he's going to fly air force one off, fly it off the white house lawn, and then.

[00:28:52] Arrive at his rally in Mar-a-Lago on air force one to greet his supporters and how like a whole [00:29:00] big rally there to celebrate or whatever it's supposed to be. , I

[00:29:05] Nancy: [00:29:05] thank God. So I don't know. I don't know what. Trump's support looks like around you or what kind of stuff you've seen, but did you read about that?

[00:29:18] Trump train bullshit.

[00:29:20]It's wearable. The Trump train,

[00:29:23] Chris: [00:29:23] sweetie. I'm in New York. We don't have a Trump supporters.

[00:29:27]Nancy: [00:29:27] So there was something called the Trump train that was going on near me. And it's literally where a bunch of angry unwashed, white men and pickup trucks put big flags and shit on the back of their car. And then they. Pick like locations to drive through.

[00:29:45] Right. I've been seeing it all fucking year. It's annoying. And of course, none of them have masks on it's a whole big thing. I will say what gave me actual hope for the first time in a long time was the weekend [00:30:00] prior to the election, it was like, Saturday or Sunday, I think. And I was, out driving and there was one side of the road and it's all these fucking maggots and Trump supporters with their flags and their diabetes and their obesity.

[00:30:15] And then I look to the other side of the road and there's a huge crowd of Biden, Harris supporters with signs and, dressed up. And it, that was the first moment where I was like, Oh, my God, like we do have a shot. We do have a shot. I cried and I was very loud and obnoxious and rolled down my window and was screaming and waving at all the Biden Harris supporters, and then like screaming, fuck you to the Trump supporters.

[00:30:42] It was really fun. But

[00:30:44] Chris: [00:30:44] that I haven't seen any of the Trump train stuff in person, but I've seen it on social media.

[00:30:49] Nancy: [00:30:49] It's cringe. As

[00:30:51] Chris: [00:30:51] what I perceive is hilarious is there's a video of, I forget what state it was in. It might've been Michigan. I forgot. I'll have to [00:31:00] look it back up, but they had made their way into a black part of town.

[00:31:05] Oh no. And. The whole, like all these black people came out into the street and just dragged them for Phil and was like surrounding their cars and shit and made them completely like shook. And they'd gotten their fucking trucks and turned around and left. I

[00:31:22] Nancy: [00:31:22] love it. Yeah. Cause I've seen them like literally assembling at like gas stations near me where they're all like, all right, y'all ready.

[00:31:30] We're going to head out now. And I'm just sitting there like. Jesus Christ. I just wanted to come here and get an Italian sub and now I have to look at this.

[00:31:37] Chris: [00:31:37] Yeah, I got ya.

[00:31:40] Nancy: [00:31:40] So remember in 2016, how I told you that my landlord had those little Trump, like side of the road signs stuck in and someone kept pulling them out and he asked me if it was me doing it.

[00:31:51] And I was like, no, but that's hilarious. So this year. And I don't know when he did this because I didn't hear [00:32:00] anything. I didn't see anybody. I was just hanging out in the apartment. I went outside to go smoke. All of a sudden there is this six foot by four foot Trump Pence sign. That's been reinforced with two by fours and all this shit.

[00:32:13] And I was like, Oh God, people are going to drive past here. And think that I did that. This is. Genuinely disturbing, but I will say after that Saturday where they confirmed that Biden won. He very quietly came here and got it and left. But there are a bunch of people around here that still have Trump Pence stuff all over the place.

[00:32:38] Yeah. And there's a sign that I passed the other day that said Democrats for Trump liberal suck RA. Fuck ever. Yeah. It's some cringe.

[00:32:50] Chris: [00:32:50] , so they've been ever since election day, they've been pushing all of these conspiracy theories about voter fraud. And if you recall [00:33:00] as we mentioned, there was like a couple of hours when Trump was leading before the mail-in ballots came in and. He tweeted out around, I think midnight, maybe a little earlier, that he's one, like he tweeted out that he won the election and declared that he was the winner before for the fucking votes are being finished.

[00:33:22] We're finished being counted. And then as they continued to count, he's talking about, Oh, they need to stop the count. Stop the count that was biggest. That was the first. Wave of all of it was telling everyone to stop counting, because if you recall, it took them like, a week and a half or whatever, to finish off with them, counting, stop the count.

[00:33:43] That's what jumped. I

[00:33:43] Nancy: [00:33:43] still cannot believe because I had read about different like initiatives leading up to the 20, 20 election about how to. Be proactive because they're gonna have way more Malin mail in ballots this year because of the pandemic [00:34:00] and everything that's been going on and how to, disposition them in a more timely fashion, if you start counting them earlier.

[00:34:06] And every single one of those efforts stalled. So when I was sitting there watching the news and they were like, and they've just now started with the mail in ballots, I was like, Oh, my God. Like I always vote in person. This is the first year I've ever done a mail in ballot. I'll probably do mail-in ballots from here on out.

[00:34:23]But I cannot imagine what a nightmare that was of seeing this massive room full of ballots that you're not allowed to touch or do anything with until. The 6:00 PM on election day or whatever time it was that they started them. I, that we could have had our results so much faster and not had to wait 75 years to hear that Biden one.

[00:34:48] Chris: [00:34:48] Yeah, I don't, I don't know how they handle it in other countries, but I don't understand the idea of waiting until election day to count the Malins other there. Other than, I guess [00:35:00] them not wanting the results of the mail-in ballot. So affect people's votes or something. I don't know,

[00:35:06] Nancy: [00:35:06] but I would think you would start that you could start the count prior to the actual election day, and then you just wouldn't publicize those numbers until it was officially like polls are open.

[00:35:18] Right. Cause I can

[00:35:19] Chris: [00:35:19] see it ended up leaking anyway. Well that okay. But they could at least start counting on election day. Not wait until after the polls have closed. Yeah. Yeah. So the, you know what I mean? Like they could start cause they could start counting on election day and then just report the results of the votes in this.

[00:35:42] Same way that they do the regular ones later that evening. Well,

[00:35:46] Nancy: [00:35:46] and I did read too though, that because of the pandemic, the amount of volunteers that normally assist with the elections dropped by a massive amount. So,

[00:35:55] Chris: [00:35:55] right. That's true too, because normally it's Older people, mostly older women that [00:36:00] are like the poll workers and stuff, and people who fall obviously fall into the high risk group.

[00:36:05] So I did read that there were a lot of college students that did volunteer this year, , I'm sure that had a lot to do with it. But I'm just remembering like all that time. We were fucking waiting for Nevada to drop their results and shadows were

[00:36:21] Nancy: [00:36:21] coming out. I don't know how we survived anything before memes from being totally honest.

[00:36:26]Someone sent me one where it was like the next time that I don't get a text back right away. I'm just going to send you're acting like Nevada right now, to be honest.

[00:36:35] Chris: [00:36:36] , so it was like, they started out with this whole stop, the vote thing. Then we finally,  they made Georgia do a hand recount. They did, then they are sorry. They made them do a hand count. Then they made them do a recount, a hand recount after the count, after the hand count,

[00:36:52] Nancy: [00:36:52] I wonder how many people were killed themselves.

[00:36:55] Can you imagine you just got done with all of that and they're like, okay, so [00:37:00] number one, thank you so much. Number two, we need it by hand now. Like I would just throw all the bounds in there and be like, fuck it. I quit.

[00:37:08] Chris: [00:37:08] You get paid to do it. So not enough, but it's also the money. Most of the time, unless you usually States have laws that.

[00:37:17] If the vote threshold, when threshold is within a certain percentage, there's an automatic recount and that's paid for by the state, but anybody can request a recount regardless of the amount, but they have to pay for it. So essentially these poll workers got paid by the Trump campaign to recount the votes, which ultimately ended up either having pretty much the same result or in some cases.

[00:37:42] Biden ended up having more votes than he did before. Yeah.

[00:37:46]So that was a waste of time and money. But I loved that when he asked, I think it was Wisconsin, he asked to recount and they were like, sure, we'll recount, but you have to ask, grow us half the money first, even start this bitch, [00:38:00] because until we see that in our account, until we see that deposit hit.

[00:38:04] That direct deposit child. We are not even raising a hand to start doing this recount because we, you are known for not paying your bills and we're not about that life. Yep.

[00:38:15] Nancy: [00:38:15] And we're not taking the white house as collateral bitch.

[00:38:17] Chris: [00:38:17] But so, yeah, so, so we started out with this top account and they finally counted and then it was like, okay, well now we're going to Sue saying that There were dead people that voted or people who voted twice, or what else did they say that the signature verification was fake because a lot of these States have these very there's all of these, voter suppression tactics that come from the Jim Crow era that are still around where they were basically trying to put up barriers for black people to be able to vote. And it was, if you watch the movie Selma, the Ava DuVernay movie, it shows how they did that, but it would be stuff like.

[00:38:53]Here's a jar of jelly beans. Tell us how many beans are in the jar. And then you can vote or name all [00:39:00] 50 States and the capital of each state. And then you can vote or like stuff like that, where it was obviously designed to keep people from voting. But then there's other stuff that's more subtle that it's still around, like the signature verification where basically.

[00:39:14]And I think it's done slightly differently depending on which state, but essentially they have your signature on file from, I guess, when you registered to vote or maybe the last time you voted or something like that, and you can vote, you can go to the. Go to the polls and vote. But if your signature cause  when, or at least in New York, anyway, when I go to vote, they pull out like a book and they say, Oh, here's your name?

[00:39:39] Okay. Sign here next to your name and print or whatever. When you vote, when they go to count your vote, if your signature does not match what your signature was on your voter registration, they will throw out your vote.

[00:39:54] Nancy: [00:39:54] So what is crazy to me about that though, is I was watching A documentary specifically about the [00:40:00] laws or the things that are in place with validating the votes.

[00:40:04] And they literally showed what Richard Nixon's signature looked like at the beginning of his presidency. And then what it looked like at the end of his presidency and how much your signature just changes over the course of your life. So all these people We're finding out way after the fact from, the 2016 election that their vote was never counted because they rejected their signature.

[00:40:24] And they're like, no, that like that's me. But that signatures from when I was, 18. Yeah. It changed. So that was very

[00:40:31] Chris: [00:40:31] interesting. Yeah. And that's the thing is it's like, okay, if you're claim because the data is clear that it's mostly black neighborhoods or, black counties where most of the signatures have been rejected.

[00:40:45] So it's clear what the intention is behind it, behind keeping that in place. But if they really were saying, okay, this isn't about race, this isn't about being biased against Democrats or whatever. This really is about just us wanting to make sure that the right person's [00:41:00] voting, then why wouldn't you be required to notify people that their vote was rejected?

[00:41:07] Nancy: [00:41:07] Yeah, that is crazy to me because

[00:41:09] Chris: [00:41:09] after the After the election because Georgia was still counting. And I believe North Carolina was counting as well. Up to like a week afterwards, they were trying to get the word out to everyone. If you voted in Georgia or you voted here, You need to go to this website and check to see if your valid was rejected, because it'll tell you if you take it upon yourself to check, it'll tell you whether your ballot was counted or rejected.

[00:41:37] And if you, if it was rejected, you have an opportunity to quote unquote, cure your ballot so that your signature matches the original signature. But you have to take it upon yourself to check that, to see if you. We're rejected. Most people don't even realize that's a thing. So so if they really, if it really was about just, well, we just want to make sure that we're [00:42:00] no voter fraud is taking place.

[00:42:01] Then you would have you would put something in place to notify people when they, their votes don't count also. That's one of the things that the Republicans were suing about in, I believe Michigan. Was that they were saying so in place, in the democratic counties where there were the politicians, there are Democrats, they put out notices to all their constituents saying, Hey guys, check your ballots, cure your ballots.

[00:42:28]Make sure your vote was counted. The Republican controlled counties didn't do that for obvious reasons because they didn't want more people to. Check and get their ballots secured. So in their lawsuit in federal court, what Rudy Giuliani's dumb ass was arguing was that, well, the the Republican leaning counties that the voters in those counties didn't have a chance to secure their, to, to cure their ballot.

[00:42:58] And it's like, well, [00:43:00] That's their fault. Like you can't be upset that the Democrats actually wanted people's ballots to count. So they told them to check it, but your stupid ass people didn't. So they didn't do anything. That's not, it's no one's fault, but their own.

[00:43:13] Nancy: [00:43:13] So, and I fully believe that they were convinced that they had this election in the bag, that there was no way that Biden would win.

[00:43:21] Chris: [00:43:21] Well, I think they know that generally the more people vote. The more likely it is for Democrat to win. And that they also knew that most Democrats are voting by mail and motor Republicans were voting in person. So it's just one of those things where it's like, everything they're doing is so anti-democratic and so fascist that  it's really quite scary.

[00:43:45] How many people have decided to go along with this scam and this sham that. This wasn't, a legitimate win. So that leads us into talking about the proud boys, [00:44:00] which if you don't know who the proud boys are, they are from my view, a white supremacist group of. Basically in cells who they, they hate black people.

[00:44:16] They hate Jews. They hate women. They're a far right group. I think they were founded by this guy, Gavin McInnes, who was one of the co-founders of fights. Which should tell you a lot about vice actually And they

[00:44:35]have different chapters around the country. And one of the chapters, one of the chapters in Florida is actually headed up by this guy named Enrique Terrio, who is Afro Cuban. And yeah. Exactly. So make that make sense. And he actually just got arrested a couple of days ago because [00:45:00] in one of the protests that they were doing or whatever it was, I don't remember where, but they destroyed, I think a black lives matter sign that was at a church or something.

[00:45:11] And the police didn't know who did it, would, they knew that it was the proud boys, but. They didn't know a person to be able to charge. So Enrique Terrio on parlor, which is now going down. But we'll talk about that in a second. He posted that, Oh, people are saying that this is a hate crime and that's false because I'm black and Cuban and I'm the one who destroyed the sign and.

[00:45:37] Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He basically admitted to it, even though I'm pretty sure he didn't do it. I think that he was he basically wasn't a Patsy, like he was taking responsibility for it so that it wouldn't be seen as the hate crime essentially. And so he admitted to it on social media on parlor [00:46:00] and they found him like a daily at her.

[00:46:03] In DC, I believe. Cause he was there. I think he was the, I would think he was there for this whole Trump rally that happened.

[00:46:10]Nancy: [00:46:10] Ryan, you said right wrong. Right.

[00:46:13] Chris: [00:46:13] It was a riot. And they arrested him and I guess at the time they arrested him. He also had all these illegal guns and like ammunition in his car he wasn't supposed to have.

[00:46:24] So I think he thought he was going to be going away for a misdemeanor. And now there's all these more serious charges. Was he the one that

[00:46:32] Nancy: [00:46:32] had the car full of Molotov cocktails?

[00:46:35]Chris: [00:46:35] No that was somebody I don't, I'm not sure if that was one of the proud boys. It might've been, but but that was, yeah, that was totally separate.

[00:46:43]But. Because that he was arrested days before the rally that before the riot or whatever. And so anyway, that's so the proud boys, they're just this awful hate group and They have, they asked Trump about that about [00:47:00] them, the first debate. And if you recall, he told them that you basically was asked to disavow them and tell them to stop what they were doing.

[00:47:07] And he said, stand back and stand by dumb fucker. And so anyway, I got them, I'm looking them up on Wikipedia and just seeing it, their logo is a fucking rooster.  Even though, they all have like micro penises I'm sure. So  where was I? What was I talking about? Oh yeah. So they've been doing all these protests and they pretty much, every one of them has turned into a disaster where there's violence involved and there's people getting maced and beaten and.

[00:47:38] All this other stuff. And I don't know if they had anything to do with Gretchen and Witmer's attempted kidnapping, but they're just bad news in general. And God, I dunno if you saw that photo, maybe I sent it to you of the guys who were wearing those fucking dresses and then flash their asses at that. [00:48:00]

[00:48:00]Rally that they did like two weeks ago, three weeks ago,

[00:48:03]Nancy: [00:48:03] You didn't send me that and please don't

[00:48:05]Chris: [00:48:05] No, you really don't want to see it. It's like these old gross looking guys who haven't bathed in like a month. Yeah.

[00:48:12] Nancy: [00:48:12] I already have a sleep paralysis demon, so I'm really fine on that front.

[00:48:18] Like her and I are on good terms. So we don't need to, we don't need to change her form.

[00:48:23] Chris: [00:48:23] Yeah. So, , there, there was a rally. They did where they were wearing. They weren't wearing any underwear and they lived, they like lifted up their dress skirts and there, they had the words, fuck NTF. I've written on their ass cheeks.

[00:48:40] And

[00:48:41] Nancy: [00:48:41] yeah, I bet you, these are the same type of men who are like, I don't wipe my ass after I shoot. Cause that's gay. Like I bet you. Oh, the smell stop. I can't,

[00:48:51] Chris: [00:48:51] yeah. I'm like one of them have some low-hanging balls that you could see was yeah, it was just, Oh

[00:48:57] Nancy: [00:48:57] God. Yeah. Yeah, don't send [00:49:00] it.

[00:49:01] Chris: [00:49:01] It was gross. But so there's been these rallies that they've been having around the country that have gotten out of hand and that leads us into what happened.

[00:49:14] Earlier this week at the Capitol, which was a fucking disgrace. So like how,

[00:49:22] Nancy: [00:49:22] how were you made aware that things were happening? Because I

[00:49:28] Chris: [00:49:28] I've been napping because I had, I woke up early that day. I think I woke up at like five or 6:00 AM and I just fed. Yeah. And then I went back to sleep and I don't think I woke up until like one,

[00:49:41] Nancy: [00:49:41] cause I was steadily texting you.

[00:49:42] And I was like, he must not

[00:49:44] Chris: [00:49:44] be right. Your taxes are what woke me up, I think. Oh. And I was like, well, no, it was good because I was like, what the hell fuck is going on? So then I checked social media and I was like, Holy. Shit. What is going on? At first I thought Oh, it's [00:50:00] just protest is getting out of hand.

[00:50:01] But then when I saw the updates on Twitter where it was like, no people have breached the capital they're on the floor of the house, they're on the floor. Like I was just sitting there in disbelief.

[00:50:11] Nancy: [00:50:11] Yeah. So like DC has been such a massive part of my life. Like. Constantly going there all throughout my life.

[00:50:24] Different ages, different times. I remember like, Losing my shit when our school field trip was like, so you guys are going to get to go into the Senate and the house representatives, and we're going to go to the Supreme court today. And cause that was all pre nine 11, like some of the tours and things I've gotten to do in DC.

[00:50:41] I feel extremely lucky because I know after nine 11, they nipped a lot of that shit. So I have a very deep love of DC and I that watching that unfold. Number one, my nerves went immediately through the roof. Like I was like [00:51:00] stress vomiting. Cause I was like, Oh my God, someone's gonna get killed. So it's going to happen.

[00:51:03] People are going to die. Oh my God. Like, and I made the mistake of clicking on a link today where I saw the footage of the police officer that got beaten to death. And I regret clicking on that. But

[00:51:16] Chris: [00:51:16] I, the one, are you talking about the one where there was like blood coming out of his mouth?

[00:51:20] Nancy: [00:51:20] No, it's a higher up one.

[00:51:23]But you can see all the different directions of people with like crutches and bats and all like all just wailing down on him. It was

[00:51:31] Chris: [00:51:31] w is this the one who was hit in the head with her info? Fire

[00:51:34] Nancy: [00:51:34] extinguisher or different one? No, the fire extinguisher one that's the one inside the building. This is the one outside of the building.

[00:51:42] Jesus it's yeah, I don't recommend clicking on it.  It was, but I don't think I've ever watched the only other thing I can compare watching and feeling such actually, no, I can't even compare it because I was I was a kid when nine 11 happened. Right. I was in eighth [00:52:00] grade. So like, I remember just being like, Oh my God, this is insane, but I didn't contextually, I didn't feel the full impact watching this was.

[00:52:10] Terrifying heartbreaking, upsetting. I was in complete shock and then I was like, Oh, I'm going to just start shotgun and beers. I'm not going back to work for the rest of the day. I'm logging off. I, yeah, that was, and when I saw the gallows that got put up with the new sin, then seeing just Twitter flooding with all these images, I.

[00:52:33] And even days later, every day I find at least five or six brand new images that break my heart. Like some of the presidential busts that were in the hallway that had blood all over the faces. They smeared shit all over the walls. And one of the hallways seeing videos, uploaded of trashed offices just it's, it was heartbreaking and disgusting.

[00:52:56] And I never [00:53:00] like. Don't get me wrong. I've never thought Trump was one to do the right thing or that he particularly cared about America or anything. But when Joe Biden came out and made his. And I had a whole moment of like, Oh my God. I remember when presidents used to talk and I felt like warm inside.

[00:53:20] Oh yeah. But he begged Trump. Please tell these people to stop, get them out. And then Trump uploads that 32nd. You're very special. We love you. Which time to go, like, dude, get fucked. That's so pathetic. And that's when I was truly at a loss for words, because I was like, this is. Like I know he added fuel to the fire the whole way for that, quote unquote, rally to turn into a riot and he didn't give a shit.

[00:53:51] And we saw footage of him enjoying watching what was happening with his son and all their weird cronies. But I could [00:54:00] not believe that he didn't, that was a chance he could have actually looked like less of a piece of shit for once, but.

[00:54:10] Chris: [00:54:10] Well, that assumes that he didn't want it to take place.

[00:54:13]Nancy: [00:54:13] No he got exactly what he wanted, but if there was anything, any shred of him that gave a shit about his legacy, he would have just. He would have just said, stop it, go home. And not the yet very special. I love you that weird bullshit

[00:54:31] Chris: [00:54:31] literally came out yesterday that while the whole thing was happening, because I'm sitting there watching the videos and I'm like, for those of you who have not been to DC and not been in around the Capitol area, they have that shit locked down.

[00:54:48] Like you can't get in and around there without somebody. Shoving a flashlight up your ass. Wondering why you're there move along. If you get lost and turned around and you get in that direction, like [00:55:00] you're like, did they have serious security there? So I'm sitting there watching the videos, wondering how the fuck did they even get past the police in the first place?

[00:55:12] How did these people get in so quickly? And I'm watching the videos and I'm like, okay, You there's something like I forget if it's two 50 or 500,000, but there's hundreds of thousands of Capitol police officers. They only have something like, I think either 50,000 or 80,000 or something there on that day.

[00:55:39] So please explain to me how it makes sense when. That not only is there a big protest happening on this particular day, but it's a protest that's happening. That's about overturning the results of the election. And at the time you [00:56:00] knew that you were going to have every Senator there at once.

[00:56:04] Yup. Every house member there at once. Plus. The current vice-president and the vice president elect because she's just hitting Senator. So all of those factors involved, how did you not know that you were going to need like a fucking one, a plus security for that motherfucking capital? It doesn't make sense and everything that we're reading now and the videos we're seeing of.

[00:56:32] Some of these police officers who were on the front lines, just letting moving the barricades and letting their asses walk the fuck in. That's so disgusting. And the failures of all of these people in leadership, they fired them all.  They fired the Sergeant at arms, they fired the head person of the Capitol police.

[00:56:51] They fired everybody. Who's in leadership that was involved in this has been fired, but. I'm watching the videos thinking, [00:57:00] how did they even get this far in this close? Yeah. Then you have then I'm sitting there thinking, because I'm like freaking out watching it going, okay, this is getting worse as the minutes go on because they're getting further in, more people are in, some of them are just trolls that were just like, Hey, we're gonna, pose sitting on sitting at the speaker's desk and whatever, but some of them actually were.

[00:57:24] Armed like with Molotov cocktails, with bombs, with guns, with other weapons. And so I'm sitting here thinking, Oh my God, this is going to get so much worse. Someone's going to die. Someone is going to die and they're going to get to Nancy Pelosi or something, or they're going to I'm like, where is Kamala Harris?

[00:57:44] Somebody making sure she's safe, like what's going on. And I'm thinking where the fuck is the backup. So then we read, okay. The DC mayor has requested the national guard to show up for support. [00:58:00] And we find out that Donald Trump declined to allow the national guard to respond because since DC is not a state, the federal government controls whether the national guard responds.

[00:58:18] So,

[00:58:19] Nancy: [00:58:19] so Larry Hogan and Maryland reached out multiple times when he saw what was happening to say, we can deploy Maryland police to you right now. And apparently he was told multiple times no, by the Trump administration. And it wasn't until later on that they ended up deploying national guard from Maryland in DC.

[00:58:40] Chris: [00:58:40] Yeah. And that's the thing is that

[00:58:43] Nancy: [00:58:43] burned down. Trump wanted bear,

[00:58:47] Chris: [00:58:47] Maryland and Virginia. We're trying to send their national guard and, but they can't do it unless they get permission from DC, from the government in [00:59:00] DC to enter the space. So. W it came out yesterday that not only was Trump denying the request for the national guard to respond, but at the very same time he was calling, because recall, this is the reason why the protest was taking place was because there's a ceremony that happens on January 6th, where the Senate certifies the electoral folks.

[00:59:29] Nothing can be changed. It's not a thing where you can suddenly at the last minute decide we're going to flip one vote. It's something else. It's just like a ceremony. You know what I mean? It's just like a a formality.

[00:59:42]Nancy: [00:59:42] It's like high school graduation. You already did all the work and shit, and you're good to go.

[00:59:46] It's just everyone showing up in the goddamn gowns.

[00:59:49] Chris: [00:59:49] Right. And so that was the reason for this protest was they wanted to, they wanted the senators to [01:00:00] not certify the results because they were so called fraudulent. So while this riot was happening and while. Trump was denying the request for the national guard to respond.

[01:00:13] He was calling the senators and telling them to change their votes.

[01:00:19]Nancy: [01:00:19] Well, and I remember, so I remember that Trump came out saying that, like Pence is going to do the right thing and make sure it's struck down and blah, blah, blah, blah. And then apparently there were some videos that surfaced last week of once they were inside of people, screaming where's Pence and Tim obviously being shook and it was revealed that Yeah, the trumps didn't check in on him once during all those shenanigans.

[01:00:46] And they knew that

[01:00:47] Chris: [01:00:47] it actually shows Mike Pence what? That the video actually shows

[01:00:53] Nancy: [01:00:53] Mike Pence. No, it shows people screaming. Where's Pence, bring him out. One of the

[01:00:58] Chris: [01:00:58] guys that was walking, showed [01:01:00] him being shot.

[01:01:01] Nancy: [01:01:01] Oh, no, but obviously he would be shocked. I wish there was footage of him like, Oh, no.

[01:01:08], so it was, cause all of this was of course, like from a very personal, assistant or someone close to the vice-president, but they said that yeah. When he heard people screaming, where's Pence that he. Was like, obviously freaking out and then the Trump's made no effort to check in on him or his safety or his whereabouts during the entire ordeal.

[01:01:31]Chris: [01:01:31] So this whole. Thing was just really scary. And it took,  hours after this whole thing began before the national guard came in from the other States. And, thank God, whoever was there, was he able to do whatever they could just to cure the Congress members and stuff?

[01:01:54] Yeah. . Now we have, I think there's now a total. I don't know. I forget what the total is or how [01:02:00] many people are dead. I heard five that, but that was a couple of days ago. And someone, another police officer just died either today or last night who was like, cause there were a number of police officers that were injured and I guess there, as the days have gone on, they come from their injuries.

[01:02:16]But the big one that everyone's talking about, remember

[01:02:20] Nancy: [01:02:20] isn't that

[01:02:20] Chris: [01:02:20] what Trump is life, right? Yeah. But the big one that everyone's talking about probably because it was the one that was caught on video is this woman, Ashley Babbitt who stupidly. So some of the people were in the like touristy parts of the Capitol where people are normally allowed to go publicly.

[01:02:44]Then they pushed their way as the hour went on, people were pushing their way further into areas where they weren't supposed to be like, going onto the actual floor of the Senate, going into Nancy Pelosi's office, Jim Clyburn's office [01:03:00] everybody's, all the senior people's offices.

[01:03:03]And there is a particular area. Where Pelosi and Pence were, which was, I believe it's called the speaker's lobby, or at least that's what it said on the door. And that was the area that was the most heavily guarded because there was secret service because of pens. And you can see in this, well, first of all, at the beginning, when this whole thing came out, you saw her being pulled out on a stretcher.

[01:03:31] With they were doing compressions and there was clearly blood all around her neck. And at the time we didn't know who it was, if it was a, or if it was a congressperson and a cop, whatever, we just knew somebody was clearly injured in the neck. And then later we find out that she was a Trump supporter, who was one of the writers.

[01:03:49] And then we see the actual video of when she was shot. And essentially what was happening was that area that speaker's lobby where Pence was being held. [01:04:00] They were trying to break in and the police were telling them, do not come in here because we're going to have to shoot you. And they had I don't know if it was secret service.

[01:04:11] It was some type of tactical team of people like sharp shooter motherfuckers, because they had like real gear, real scary ass rifles and they ha they were inside the Capitol building right at the door, pointing the guns to the door. As all these little smelly unwashed Trumpsters are banging on the doors, using like objects to try to bash it open.

[01:04:38] They couldn't get the doors open, but they were banging on the windows. Which the windows must be Bulletproof or something because it they were trying really hard to get those windows open and it took like a lot of force to, and effort to finally break one of the windows enough for them to be able to get in.

[01:04:54] But they ended up breaking one of the windows and this woman, Ashley Babbitt [01:05:00] climbed up on the door, into the window. To try to get in and she's wearing a big backpack on her back as she's doing it at the time. So who knows if she's got a gun in there, a bomb, a whatever, and as she's climbing in the officer closest to the door is telling her, do not come in.

[01:05:18] I'm going to have to shoot you. She was warned multiple times and she was still crawling her ass and talking about, don't tread on me and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And, stop the count or stop the vote or whatever the fuck. And they shot her up. Yes, she got shot right in her mother fucking neck.

[01:05:37] And I don't think it took longer grass to die because. The guy was a really good shot. And it looked like when they were pulling her out on the stretcher, that she was already dead, quite frankly. And so now you have all these people, of course look her up on her social media. Her name is Ashley Babbitt.

[01:05:55] I think her Twitter page is still up and [01:06:00] she's talking all this shit about all this stuff they're going to do and you know how she's going to make Polosi pay. And. All this other shit. So she's all big and bad talking on social media. And now they're running around talking about how she's a martyr and it's B her death is basically the same as George Floyd.

[01:06:22] Nancy: [01:06:22] It killed me when I started seeing posts that were saying like, But they didn't have to shoot her. Like she was unarmed and I was like Oh, so now you guys care about that. That's interesting. Cause when everyone was outraged all summer and we were talking about George Floyd and Brianna Taylor, you guys, just kept saying, well, if you follow the rules, you wouldn't have anything to worry about.

[01:06:47] Like they deserve what was coming to them. Very interesting. I literally saw a Twitter post that said like she was an air force veteran and a true American hero. Hashtag [01:07:00] say her name hashtag Ashley Babbitt. And I almost threw my phone across the room. Like y'all are really going to try to hijack the.

[01:07:10] Say her name hashtag, which is clearly about women of color being murdered. What, how tone deaf are we these days

[01:07:18]

[01:07:18] Chris: [01:07:18] But so, yeah, and now it's look, if you, if she was a fucking trespasser at somebody's house yeah. If they would have had the right to shoot her ass. So you're telling me that her climbing through a window of a federal building. With a group of people who are trying to overtake the building with weapons, that somehow that's not a justified shooting.

[01:07:53]They told her multiple times, if you come in, we will have to shoot you period. And she thought, I [01:08:00] guess that being a white woman was going to save her ass from getting shot. Well, guess what? That white privilege check came back insufficient funds bitch, because now you're dead.

[01:08:09]Nancy: [01:08:09] Not the white privilege check bouncing, honey.

[01:08:12] Chris: [01:08:12] Yeah, it sure did. Oh my God. But just these people, I just think the idea and I've even seen some liberal people defending her, like saying, if you believe, if you don't believe in people and on people getting shot, we should believe that across the board. I'm sorry. No, there was a huge difference between George Floyd, who was apprehended for a fucking counterfeit bill, getting a knee on his neck until he died versus a large group of people writing to overtake a government building.

[01:08:52] And trying to stage a fucking coup, which by the way I'm not in the military, but I'm pretty [01:09:00] sure if you're in the military and you commit treason there are consequences for that. So she was a veteran and she knew good and goddamn well that she was committing an act against the us government. So there's no excuse, I'm sorry,

[01:09:16] Nancy: [01:09:16] but I think they can.

[01:09:19] I think they can still dishonorable discharge or dishonorably discharged people from the armed services. Yes.

[01:09:28]Chris: [01:09:28] They can, and they should, because her stupid ass does not deserve to be considered a fucking veteran. And I don't know if her husband's military as well or not, but. We'll wait, what's her husband with her at this event?

[01:09:43]Nancy: [01:09:43] No, he was not with her,

[01:09:45] Chris: [01:09:45] so, okay. That's right, because he was, I remember reading those texts that she sent on the plane. Well, I'll make sure to watch my six bitch. You should have been watching her 12. So I

[01:09:55] Nancy: [01:09:55] saw it. There was an interview with her husband where he was [01:10:00] out in California. And apparently when he.

[01:10:03] He had been texting her for a while and hadn't really heard back. So he like texted her for like a status update of like, Oh, how's everything going? And then he saw the image of her being rolled out on the stretcher. And at that point, obviously she wasn't identified, but he told this new station, he was like, I knew immediately.

[01:10:20] That was her. Like, without a doubt, I knew that was her. , he was not with her. I don't know if he's a Trump supporter. I assume I don't. I have no idea

[01:10:31] Chris: [01:10:31] who he is. Yeah. They're both huge maca Q Anon people. Yeah. , so this is,  it's really sad to see. There's a, there's another video that I saw that was showing from the PR I don't know who it was that was recording, but it shows the perspective.

[01:10:48] Cause  the legislators they were hiding, like in the balcony. And they were, there was a video that shows  Congresswoman Jayapal and a couple of other people. And you could [01:11:00] see that she was like, she was shaking and she was terrified because this was like the part when they were they'd already made their way into the building.

[01:11:08] And they were like trying to break the door down to get onto the floor of the house. And. I guess by the time, eventually they did make it in, but I guess by that time they had, the authorities had moved people into a secure location or something. I

[01:11:24] Nancy: [01:11:24] would have shit, my pants immediately.

[01:11:26] Chris: [01:11:26] Yeah.  Think about what that, you have no idea what's going on. They thought they were saying, they thought it was just, Some rowdy people that have made their way into the building and that it was going to be taken care of it. They didn't, it wasn't until they started trying to break down the door that they were like, Oh my God, we're actually in danger.

[01:11:45] And this is like a, basically a terrorist attack. That's essentially what it was. People don't want to call it what it is, but it essentially was domestic terrorism. Yeah. I can't imagine like you're stuck in that Capitol building. There's not enough [01:12:00] police there. And you don't have any weapons, what are you supposed to do?

[01:12:04] And you don't know how many people there are, where are they at? What part of the buildings they've gotten themselves into? The

[01:12:10] Nancy: [01:12:10] scarier part to me is that there you have no way of knowing where they actually are in the building. So if I've run out of this room to run in this direction, am I running towards safety or disaster?

[01:12:21] Like I, Oh my God. I'd probably be paralyzed with fear, shitting and crying in a corner. I don't. Cause how do you know which way to go? You don't that's so that is so terrifying. I would lose it,

[01:12:33]Chris: [01:12:33] but I'm just like, I'm enjoying seeing in the days, following all these people get identified and arrested because many of them got arrested already that day or like the next day by do you see police for like local charges of unlawful entry?

[01:12:53] But now they're also getting arrested by the feds. So which it's this is serious shit. If [01:13:00] you're, if federal agents show up to arrest you, like you're not going back home. You're going to be going away for a long time. And there's all these people that are like, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.

[01:13:11]I didn't know what I was doing. I got caught up in the moment and know.  Please forgive me. This is not who I am and blah, blah,

[01:13:18] Nancy: [01:13:18] blah. No girl. Let's you. We saw your post history. It's

[01:13:23] Chris: [01:13:23] there's this particular guy whose name I'm blanking on. I think his first name is Bruce and his last name is something with a lot of letters, but he is, he lives in a suburb of Chicago and he's the CEO of some company.

[01:13:38] And he'd already been arrested for unlawful entry by the local police. Rusted and released until he was back at his house. And the local news was, has showed up basically asking him, like, why did you do that? What do you have to say? And he was basically like, well, I made a mistake and I [01:14:00] was just there to hear the speeches.

[01:14:02]I didn't mean to go. I didn't mean to go inside the Capitol. I was just following the group and. Blah, blah blah. They

[01:14:08] Nancy: [01:14:08] pushed me I didn't mean to go in. They pushed me

[01:14:12] Chris: [01:14:12] and I'm like, come on dude, this was not just a situation of Oh, we're just going to peacefully and neatly walk in in in formation into the Capitol to check out the fucking view like this was, you were, you could clearly tell that the group that you were in was violently overtaking the building.

[01:14:33] Like you knew that. So don't try to sit here now. You just thought that you weren't going to get caught. You thought, Oh, it's as big group and they're not going to be able to know who was what you know, and I'm just going to be here and do my thing. And then I'm going to leave. You didn't think you were going to be able to be identified and found you didn't think they were going to be any consequences.

[01:14:51] And yet here we are so mislead with the fucking bullshit. And then he, so he posted his apology on Twitter. [01:15:00] And conveniently deleted his entire Twitter history so we can see what the fuck he was tweeting beforehand because it was all because it's all, I'm sure his lawyer told him to do that because anything he may have said can be used to prove what his intent was and going there, but I'm like, y'all cannot sit here and act like you just got caught up in the motherfucking moment.

[01:15:22] When so many of you had weapons. And all this other shit. There's this? Oh my God. I forgot. I think I did send it to you. The two people who, the one woman who was literally holding a sign that said don't tread on me and her ass got trampled to death.

[01:15:38] Nancy: [01:15:38] You did send me that she was

[01:15:40] Chris: [01:15:40] stupid bitch.

[01:15:42]Oh, Mike, first of all no I just. I can't. And her fucking family is like wanting us to feel sorry for her and shit, girl. Bye.

[01:15:50] Nancy: [01:15:50] What cracks me up is the juxtaposition between the before and after photos of them, like all happy and smiling and running around during the [01:16:00] riot. And then the mugshot photos, they have like a thousand yard

[01:16:04] Chris: [01:16:04] stare.

[01:16:06] Well, there was another guy who Was a part of it who having his social media had some crazy shit on it. And he was talking about, let me see if I can find exactly what you said because somebody posted let's see.

[01:16:19]Okay, here it is. Yeah. So these are the statements that he had posted on his social media in the weeks prior I'm in call me, I have guns and ammo. Let's take this fucking country back. Load your guns and take to the streets. Maybe Nancy Pelosi will get it and die. And we can't stop a fucker from cheating and election.

[01:16:38] The only Republican with balls is Trump. You fuckers, aren't doing shit to help Trump instead of posting this bullshit, you should be doing something else to help Trump. So this is what he posted on his social media regarding this particular event. And then he's got a photo of him in his fucking house, standing in front of his Christmas tree, holding two big ass rifles, one in each hand, [01:17:00] and then has two pistols in his waistband.

[01:17:03] So it seems as Kevin Greeson now Kevin Griessen is dead. He was in the process of trying to steal a painting and his dumb ass tasered himself in the balls and had a heart attack.

[01:17:20] Nancy: [01:17:20] Oh my God.

[01:17:22] Chris: [01:17:22] I not joking. He did. He hit, he had the taser in his pocket, I guess. And somehow it went off. And he hated himself like four or five times in my life.

[01:17:33] And now, Oh my God,

[01:17:37] I can't. Can you imagine, first of all, can you imagine dying for Donald Trump in the first place? Let's just start with that. I can't

[01:17:43] Nancy: [01:17:43] imagine that. I also can't imagine dying. I can't even imagine being tased, let alone dying from a taser. Holy shit. I

[01:17:53] Chris: [01:17:53] hadn't heard that. But bitch, imagine people showing up for your funeral and being like, how did he die?

[01:17:59] Oh, he [01:18:00] tasered himself in the balls. Like this is your legacy. Bitch. This is going to be on the family tree. This is going to be on ancestry.com.

[01:18:09] Nancy: [01:18:09] What I am curious about though, is what is Ashley Babbitt's funeral gonna look like? Is that going to turn into like a pseudo Trump rally where everyone, all these Trumpees are gonna show up there to support her and honor her?

[01:18:23] Is that word?

[01:18:24] Chris: [01:18:24] Probably

[01:18:26] Nancy: [01:18:26] because I don't even know how hand, like, how are we handling funerals during COVID.

[01:18:32]Chris: [01:18:32] Most of the people that I've like I had a family member die and we just we, I think it was like pretty much at the beginning of COVID. So it was, I think it was like an April. And so at that time we thought that the lockdown.

[01:18:48] Well, like we were going to do the lockdowns for a month and then we were going to go back to normal at that time, but then it didn't. So we, they started planning funeral and then we just ended up canceling it altogether. But I've [01:19:00] seen people doing like virtual funerals or like where it'll be just the immediate family, that's there at the, like doing the service and the pastor or whatever.

[01:19:10]And they recorded it and just stream it for everybody else to watch. But I don't know what the, I don't know if funeral homes are specifically mentioned in any of these like lockdown orders, if you're allowed to do them or not,

[01:19:25]Nancy: [01:19:25] they would be an essential business because they, do autopsies and,

[01:19:31] Chris: [01:19:31] you considered essential for like handling of the bodies, but Having that many people under one roof in one room.

[01:19:40] Yeah, it is.  It's the same as basically a borrower restaurant. So and then you've also got, and it's, and you've got people at crying and stuff and so there's all these air, there's all these respiratory droplets like it's so, yeah, I don't know, but who knows. But is she originally [01:20:00] from Maryland?

[01:20:01] Nancy: [01:20:01] She I just know that she lived in Maryland, in Huntingtown, Maryland and Annapolis. Cause there was a Baltimore sun article about her that got posted because I'm not gonna lie though. When you texted me like, Oh, she's from Maryland. I was like, I know his ass is lying right now. He's trying to punk me into believing because I know you love to trick me.

[01:20:24] So I was like, Oh yeah, it was she. And then you sent the article and I was like, Oh my God. , I don't know if she's from Maryland, but she definitely lived here.

[01:20:34]Chris: [01:20:34] Yeah. So I'm just wondering if they were even thinking about having a funeral where they would have it, if they would have it in San Diego or, Oh, wait, was it San Diego or was there another part of LA?

[01:20:44]It was long

[01:20:45] Nancy: [01:20:45] beach.

[01:20:46]Chris: [01:20:46] Let's see. Ashley Babbitt.

[01:20:48]Oh, she says she's from ocean beach. I don't know where the fuck that is. Ocean beach, California. Okay. It's it says it's in San Diego County. So San Diego [01:21:00] is one of the redder parts of California. So

[01:21:05] Nancy: [01:21:05] the Navy stuff

[01:21:06] Chris: [01:21:06] out there. Yeah. So it wouldn't shock me if they did have a funeral for her and all these magazines people showed up.

[01:21:13]But

[01:21:14] yeah, fucker. That's what I have to say. I just don't have sympathy for any of these people. It's like, you knew what you were. I can, I guess I could say there are some people who genuinely support Trump and believe that he's. Been cheated or whatever, and they were there to just be a part of an event fine.

[01:21:32] But once you fucking breached the Capitol and you went inside, you knew what the fuck you were doing. You knew exactly what you were doing. So I don't buy the bullshit.

[01:21:43]It's always after the fact, once there's consequences. Oh, my gosh. I'm so sorry. I didn't know. I got caught up in the moment that a little bitch. Bye.

[01:21:52] Nancy: [01:21:52] Well, and the, what I don't understand either, and I don't know what group this is.

[01:21:57] There's a group. Is there similar to the proud boys, but [01:22:00] it's a different group, but they were a bunch, there were a bunch of them at the riot with sweatshirts on that had six M w E written on it, which stood for 6 million. Wasn't enough. They're this hugely like anti-Semitic group

[01:22:15]Chris: [01:22:15] 6 million as in 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust.

[01:22:18] Nancy: [01:22:18] Correct. So I don't remember the name. But they, there are a bunch of pictures of them there.

[01:22:25]Chris: [01:22:25] Well, that's scary. Yeah. , there, it's there's, I think we're going to learn a lot more in the coming weeks, especially after Biden takes over the justice department. The Congress is also doing their own investigation. Amy Klobuchar is in charge of the Senate judiciary committee's investigation, which, if she's in charge of it, she's going to certainly get to the bottom of, get to the bottom of it.

[01:22:55]She's a former prosecutor and she's really tough and smart. And [01:23:00] what's really scary to me is it's clear that. Certain individuals in the Capitol police were complicit either, either in a premeditated way or in the moment. And Jim Cliburn was on CNN the other day, talking about how.

[01:23:21] The actual offices of the senior members of Congress are in are like hidden away. Like they're not in obvious places. So if you were to go to his office where it says, like Jim Cliburn his name on the thing, the part that you would think is his office is not where they went. They went to the hidden part.

[01:23:43] So he's yes. So meaning somebody had to have told them. Where these offices were located. And so that's either Capitol police and, or, and I think it's very likely [01:24:00] that it was actual Congress members and, or their stand or their staff who we're complicit in this, in, in organizing and helping these people to organize and telling them where to go.

[01:24:11] Because remember, we now have. Several like Q Anon people that are in Congress now for on the Republican side. And so it very well could have been one of them. But people are going to get to the bottom of it and I just can't wait to see them all in prison. Quite frankly.  So that's all of that mess.

[01:24:32]There's going to be more, that's going to be unfolding over the next couple of weeks and probably months as these, they continue. Every day there's more and more people arrested and sadly, more people that were learning 

[01:25:03] [01:25:00] all right, Joel, that is the end of the first part of our two-part episode. We have so much to say we had to build this out into two parts. If you want to hear the next episode, go into your feed, it should be available right now. To continue listening. .